Seriously, apart from the physical properties, there isn't really anything different between these two colors, or for that matter DLSU and ADMU.
I am probably one of the few people who thinks that this rivalry is over the line. Apart from the usual battling of the players in the court, a lot of extra curricular activities are going on, from the fans bashing one another, their genuine hatred (for some at least) for one another, looking for reasons to make fun of the other and stuff like that. I wish people just left all the emotions on the court and let go of them right after the game (okay i admit i may be guilty!). Of course when i say this, it doesn't apply to all of the supporters, there still are those sensible ones. Maybe it's just me, since i don't believe that people need to fight one another. I feel that the cheering during the games get out of hand sometimes, especially when it becomes so personal. Like during game 2 of the series, some die-hard Lasalista shouts terrorist to Rabeh! I mean come on! what did he ever do to you to deserve being called that? And Ateneans who always love to make fun of Walsham, Rico or Cardona and others where's the breeding there? And when people shout Tangina Mo, its like what did my mom ever do to you?! As a player, you have to learn how to block it all out but man, sometimes it's gotta hurt too. But of course i've got to make it clear that not everyone does this. It's probably just a few of those super crazy die-hard fans!
I've been thinking about stuff and i realized that these two schools are no different from one another. Both schools are constantly looking for things against the other and when they do find something, it's like a time bomb waiting to explode. There will be non-stop taunting and teasing and all those stuff, and it goes back and forth. Let's see, Ateneo was having a blast by making fun of La Salle for their mistake in the spelling of La Salle during the cheering competition (i've always thought this was pointless. gee!) and they had their share of cheering wrong spelling! They've also had the pleasure of making fun of La Salle for their "cheating" (fielding ineligible players) and they've been saying bad stuff about La Salle for that. La Salle on the other hand, have had the pleasure of boasting their numerous championships through the years and they have this new bonfire incident to take against Ateneo (I must say this was a stupid move by some alumni who did it. Disgrace. To whoever did it, imagine if it were our own players? That would be below the belt)
La Salle calls Ateneo mayabang. Ateneo calls La Salle bobo. I don't know what the basis for this is because i believe that the education of both schools are equally as good (Yes ateneans, gotta admit La Salle has a helluva good engineering course, plus accounting too!) even though the rankings may differ (before La Salle was higher but now it's Ateneo) and as for the mayabang claim of La Salle, i'm sure there are tons of mayabang people from DLSU too.
Ateneo makes fun of Brian Ilad for throwing a punch during a game, gee could they have forgotten that our very own beloved LA Tenorio once threw a punch too, (a sucker cheap-shot punch for that matter) against La Salle pa!
Ateneans despise La Salle players like Maierhofer, Yeo, Cardona, Malabes and the other "mayabang" ones. La Salle despise Ateneo players like Salamat, Buenafe, Villanueva and those others they call mayabang too! But i bet one thing is for sure, as long as those players perform on the court, their own schools would love them no matter who they are (as long as they don't do anything to ruin the school's image) and they would stick with them. So i bet if those players changed teams and were playing for the other school, like lets say Rico played for Ateneo, it would be the other way around. Ateneo would love him and La Salle would hate him! haha that's just the way it works.
Players have to work hard and prove themselves to gain the respect of both schools. Ateneo and La Salle both have certain players that they like to make fun of or criticize (im talking about the fans) but of course once they do well then it all ends. I remember hearing non-stop criticism before for Rabeh, Ford Arao, even Jai Reyes and their very favorite Chris Tiu. But where are those naysayers now? Haha. I also knnow from my La Salle friends that they do this too. Kish Co was always being criticized until he showed up big and played well during last year's finals. People from DLSU keep on critcizing Walsham, Malabes, Ferdinand and others too. I remember they used to criticize my good friend Ty Tang back when he was still a rookie (i still used to root for La Salle cause of him hehe until Chris went to Ateneo) but after delivering a championship on his final year, i doubt they have anything bad to say about him anymore! So see? The way we act and treat players are alike! After all, we are all Filipinos still!
When Ateneo loses they blame the referees, when La salle loses, they blame the referees too. Both communities come up with really good explanations as to how the officials made them lose, but the bottom line is the outcome won't be changed. Both schools accuse each other of sourgraping when they lose.
I thought all the while that it was just Ateneo saying that DLSU buys players and gives alot of stuff under the table. I also thought na it was only Ateneo accusing DLSU of having double standards for the players, finding ways for them to enter the school even if they fail the entrance test and giving alot of special privileges and stuff like that. Apparently, as i stumbled upon some DLSU thread, i found that they too accuse Ateneo of exactly the same thing. I found it funny. I mean, both sides would go on debating and finding evidence to prove that they are right and rest assured that they will both defend themselves and claim that this doesnt happen in their school. But i bet that it does happen, in both schools! Funny though that the threads of both schools accuse the other about the same thing! Amusing and amazing.
I know right now that DLSU is having the last laugh especially after the bonfire incident. They can make fun of our breeding. But Ateneo has been saying the same thing through the years (not coming out for the championship awarding?). I don't think it will ever stop but i do wish that it were less volatile! Sure that might take the fun out of the UAAP, but it would hurt less people too!
And one more common thing is that both schools love to generalize. When one Atenean makes a bad goof-up (bonfire!) its generalized to the whole community! When one Lasallite makes a mistake or when there is a bad incident (awarding, illegitimate players) it is generalized to the whole community too! And i personally think that it is not fair. No matter what sort of education each school gives to their students, one way or another, there will always be those immature boneheads who deviate from the norm. And they are the ones who do these stupid acts that unfortunately people automatically generalize to the school. So no matter how much Ateneans love to say that they are superior over DLSU when it comes to education, i do not believe that one bit! (for the record, i have never made fun of DLSU when it comes to that wrong spelling incident, as well as i am never personal to any of their players when i cheer. I cheer for my school, not against another school.)
On a side note, i must say that i am deeply disappointed and embarrassed by that bonfire incident. I would like to apologize to the La Salle community for that act. But as i said in the preceding paragraph, the action of one alumni (who wrote their names on the wood) must and should not be generalized to that of the whole school. I believe Fr. Ben was very angry upon finding out about it and he will issue an official letter of apology to DLSU. I was talking to Rabeh about it and he said that yeah, it really was below the belt and we both agreed that if that were done to our players we would be outraged too, so i understand where the DLSU community is coming from, but learn to direct your anger please. It is not the team who did it nor is it any school official/administration. Oh yeah, and regarding that article on Rabeh almost transferring to LSGH but didn't because he didn't pass; well, his comment to that was that it was "a bunch of BS" :)
So there you have it, i don't know maybe it's just me who sees it that way. I'm sure alot of people will beg to differ. Unfortunately for you, if you want to beat me up for writing this, you'd have to wait til next year since i'm in far far away land :)
One thing i do know is that no matter what each school says about the other and no matter what wrong actions the school may have done, a Lasallite will always be proud to be a Lasallite and an Atenean will always be proud to be an Atenean too.  | Nice Blog... and i 100% agree... emotions should be left on the court... I also agree that The Bonfire with player's names was really below the belt... but again i do not blame ADMU, but basically just the people/person behind the name writing.... BTW Charles, are you in Switzerland already? natuloy ka pa ba? haha... |
 | "...you'd have to wait til next year since i'm in far far away land :)" haha ok Charles benta sa akin... nice blog! see you next year man |
 | Great blog, sir.
This is the most objective blog I've read so far, coming from the other side. (yes I'm from the green side of things. I stumbled upon the link of this blog through archerpride.com)
You've raised many good and sensible points. I agree that both camps have their share of mayabang students and alumni. It's the burning school pride in these individuals that has been there for decades now. That's what makes this rivalry unique, and maybe even better than any other rivalry in the country, or in the world for the matter. (yeah, for me this is better than the Celtics-Lakers rivalry) What makes this whole thing great is the fact that even though we may be the bitterest rivals in the land, at the end of the day, the TRUE La Sallians and Ateneans still have that respect for each other. And if you think about it, one positive thing about this rivalry is that it brings out the best in each one, since one always strives to be better than the other.
Well, it's another UAAP season down, and I would like to extend an overdue congratulations to you guys. On to Season 72! And I'm sure a lot of La Sallians will concur with you and I don't think anyone will beat you up. hehe |
 | babolatgrl wrote on Oct 3, '08, edited on Oct 4, '08 Wow, charles. :)
I totally agree.. There is a reason for the rivalry -- it's because Ateneo and La Salle are the top 2 schools and we are of the same mold. These schools cater to the same social class, and there is a reason why Ateneans and La Sallians hang out the same places and find themselves in the same social circles.
So yeah, there really isn't any difference.
However, we have come a long way from the NCAA days when the rivalry caused people to wreck each other's cars in the parking lot and have gang wars and stuff like that. Haha.
Sometimes, i suppose we just have to laugh it off.
I hope you have a great trip. Enjoy the time away from all the madness of Manila, haha. :) You're going to miss all the TV guestings and crazy parties that come with the Blue Eagles winning a championship though.. Shame.
Take care! |
 | I totally agree. They had a some kind of "debate" in The Explainer in ANC on which school is really better if its Ateneo or La Salle. they would have lame excuses that the other one is better. In my point of view, they're actually both the same, like what you've said. Both schools are really great. If for example La Salle is excelling at a certain category they tease the Ateneans and the same with Ateneo, if they are excelling at a certain category they would tease La Salle. But, how did the rivalry start anyway? It's kind of disappointing that even the 1st graders from both of the schools hate one another already. How did the rivalry actually affect them already. We can't say naman that they actually met all of them personally then they had a fight. Acceptable pa nga yung mga businessman eh. Big question. If either the admin is teaching them that, which i highly doubt, or if some of the classmates influence them or something. But still, I dont think its right to affect the thinking of the students of both ateneo and la salle from the lower school. it teaches them a different kind of perception. |
 | amdgo wrote on Oct 3, '08 :P Go Charles. idol na kita. |
 | I agree with this. At the end of the day, La Sallians and Ateneans are FAMILY. No matter how much Ateneo tries to separate itself from LaSalle and vice-versa, both is a reflection of the other. Both lasallians and ateneans commit mistakes and classless acts but we too are the future movers of the society. It is in the hands of Lasallians and Ateneans (and UP, etc.) that our country would prosper in the future.
Animo La Salle! One big Fight Ateneo.
..just dropping by. |
 | austria! im leaving in like 6 hours :) thanks kev! see you next year! |
 | haha i bet they wanted to last year :) well... yeah bottom line is i hope that people from both schools still have RESPECT for one another. |
 | thanks :) haha i know. i kinda wana stay! haha |
 | slexy wrote on Oct 3, '08 agree. totally the same sentiments. |
 | I think that at the end of the day people just do it for fun. i guess its because of the high they get from their inner school spirits. its actually true that a lot of the bickering and being bias actually comes from the people off the court because at the end of the day, when the season is over, Ateneo will always be Ateneo and LaSalle will always be LaSalle but the people they cheer for, the players themselves are in good terms off the court. i feel that all that is just in the spirit of the season. |
 | I totally agree with everything you said. The rivalry people see in a basketball court, they try to connect to everything else! Crazy! Much as I love watching Ateneo-La Salle games, in the end, they're just basketball games. Life goes on after them. :)
Gumagaling na pag-blog mo a! Hahahaha! |
 | Good job Charles! Finally an unbiased post here on Multiply. Everyone's so OA about the whole thing! Haha Very well written Charles! |
 | Very well said Charles.
It's sad to think how one person's actions caused embarrassment for the entire community. And how people can't leave the rivalry on court.
If only they saw what we saw last Saturday right?hahaha. |
 | btw, i agree with your friend here, your blogs keep getting better and better! have fun in Austria! see you when you get back |
 | hehe is it because im not saying anything bad na? :D hehehee thanks kei! take care see yA! |
 | thank you! haha i know! its kkinda irritating! last year we were bickering for the longest time! now sila naman! hehe its like a pattern na! |
 | haha thankS! sa english 11 nakuha un :D HAHA just kidding |
 | uhuh but they should leave it at that :) after the season let's all get over it haha |
 | i agree very much dude! galing galing. parepost ah! LOL! |
 | frjg wrote on Oct 4, '08, edited on Oct 4, '08 Observations like yours are refreshingly unbiased and intelligent. Couldn't have said it better. Thanks for posting this, and we're proud of you! Enjoy your JTA, Charles! |
 | same thoughts here!.. you take care there, Mr. Tiu!..^o~ |
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 | very well written. :) pa-repost, ha? thanks! be safe wherever you are. :) |
 | You don't know me and I don't know you personally, but I read your post on the incident and the "raging war" that is Ateneo-La Salle. I just want you and others to know that I share the same sentiments. http://superstarbeachbum.multiply.com/journal/item/156*Beware: Long tagalog post! Haha! |
 | Ey Charles :) Just wanted to comment that you really have good points on the rivalry between ADMU and DLSU. The rivalry seems so superficial that it takes the fun out of the game itself, Basketball! Sana everyone would share the same sentiments as you. More power to you! |
 | I agree! The rivalry's supposed to be there for fun, and not an excuse for bashing the other school. haha |
 | this is actually one of the best blogs i've read ever since this year's UAAP season started. :D galing! |
 | i agree with you. completely. and you say it so well. |
 | oh well that's why its a RIVALRY because it can't be one if both schools weren't the same. honestly would you compete with someone who is unlike you? edi no point. i think OA na yung bonfire thing and making ateneans who were not responsible for that particular act apologize is clearly absurd. we can't all be responsible for our fellow ateneans' actions. i still say that the rivalry these days has gotten more "decent" as compared to the days before when students would smash each others' car windows and literally beat each other up just for belonging to another school.
on a less serious note, have fun on your JTA!:) |
 | grbe..galing ng blog mo.. |
 | "Yes ateneans, gotta admit La Salle has a helluva good engineering course" <--- I TOTALLY AGREE =b (i'm not being biased haha =b)
There's a rivalry because the two are so alike =b it's natural to try to out do the other. It's like when you see someone who is like you in every way, you'd want to show that you're better than the other or that you're special. Something like that =b i think you get it haha
Ooh JTA ka? cool! haha Take Care! |
 | jawsh wrote on Oct 4, '08 Hi there. I don't know you personally or what, but a friend of mine gave me the link to this blog.
Thank you for stepping out in the open and standing up for writing a very objective blog. Very, very, well said. Let's leave the rivalry at the ball courts, for crying out loud. I love watching dlsu-admu games and i try my best to leave it at that.
On a more serious tone, the saddest thing here is that the society is looking up to both La Salle and Ateneo for the answers to their needs as the two schools produce the future leaders of this land... And then this is what they get? Bickering up to the most irrelevant and futile matters? Students, and most especially ALUMNI, from BOTH schools should know better. After all, shouldn't we strive to be men and women for others, and/or be Christian Achievers for God and Country?
Then again, this is a great blog. Thanks for posting.
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 | Hey Charles. I don't really know you personally and just like what others before me said, I just got the link of your blog from a good friend.
Thank you for this beautifully written and thought-provoking blog. I'm freshman in Ateneo and i'm super duper happy to be, but I also came from a La Salle high school, and I'm super duper happy to come from there too. You're right. Both schools are similar in so many ways and that this rivalry really is such a petty thing. True, it does make the basketball games exciting beyond what words can articulate, but I do hope it stays in the basketball courts.
You're points are so good. Great blog. AMDG. :) |
 | amdgo wrote on Oct 4, '08 We understand that. Really.
I just want to say to that alumni, what the hell was he thinking? Lol  He's not thinking, I guess. :)) |
 | I guess bottom line is, there can never be behavioral guidelines and standards that will be acceptable to everyone from the green and blue sides simply because there are so many different kinds of followers. What may be ok for one Atenean may be foul for another Atenean, plus so many other opinions falling in between those two perspectives. Add to that the extremes from the other side's point of view and you will have a big mess each and every time out -- all elements of the rivalry, off court and on court. Personally, I just hope and would like to believe that there are more sensible Ateneans and LaSallians out there than crazy ones, who know that they can enjoy the games and rivalry itself with passion yet also know that there are more serious and important things in life to pay attention to. |
 | hi charles! nice blog. you've really mentioned so many great points. and i totally agree (i'm from the green side, anyway)...
i took an excerpt nga pala from your blog and posted it to mine. don't worry i didn't put any other comment about this in my blog. i hope you won't mind =)
tnx... |
 | its all true..."I wish people just left all the emotions on the court and let go of them right after the game ....."may mga tao ginagawa na nilang personalan ung RIVALRY ng 2 schools even sa labas ng basketball game may ganyan..nangyari na sa kin un.. the reason y there's this UAAP is to unite all the leading universities of our country, and hindi para mgaway..
to the alumni(who wrote the names...) hindi nmn pangalan mo nasira eh.. its the name of the school.. ATENEO.. since sa campus ung bonfire and victory party un ng team ateneo.. =( its not the ateneo way...
charles.. i know how you feel.. tama ung comment mo.. i agree i know madmi din ngaagree sa atin.. i admire you charles you're brave enough to write this post.. i agree, wag tayong mggeneralized.. bawat tao may ibat ibang personality ksi di ba?? hay.. lts pray na maayos tong issue na 'to..
its a wake up call not only for ateneo/la salle supporters, but for everyone na rin.. lets respect one another ateneo and dlsu are respected schools in our country and catholic schools pa pareho and alm natin na sobrang focus sa values education yung 2 schools.. please wag nating kalimutan ung values na tinuo sa tin(im not saying wala tayo values, nakakalimutan lang natin ito) be proud of our schools and alagaan ntin ung name ng schools... kung anu kasi tayo ngaun magrreflect sa name ng schools natin un.. there are more important issues sa society na dapat iresolve.. lets unite na lng po.. lets stop na
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 | may i add, pati players namin (UST players), nasama din sa pagsisiga... m just saying... |
 | finally, an unbiased post ;) very well said. :) |
 | very very well said. :) after reading your blog i realized that the things you said were in fact true. good job charles! this was a post really worth reading. :) keep safe wherever you are right now :] God bless! |
 | great!:) maybe the bonfire should be forgotten na lang:D |
 | I think it should be forgiven and not forgotten. i say this because this incident should serve as an example to Ateneans and Lasallites alike that they should be more sensitive of what they are doing and their actions might damage the reputation of the whole community and start more controversies! |
 | IM HAPPY TO ACTUALLY READ YOUR COMMENTS! THANKS ALL! IM IN FRICKING QATAR RIGHT NOW WAITING FOR 3 MORE HOURS FOR MY FLIGHT TO AUSTRIA AND I FEEL LIKE PUKING! MAN I HAVE MOTION SICKNESS! ARGH!! |
 | good job! :) make a charles-tiu.blogpsot.com already! haha! hurry up! i'm waiting for you!!!! |
 | hehe thanks! see you in school next year haha |
 | haha yeah he wasnt thinking probably. he wrote a letter of apology to father ben already and father ben has apologized narin. case closed na dapat |
 | haha yeah i have cousins who took up engineering in la salle and it was pretty nasty! haha |
 | yeah! more decent! word wars na lang! hehe thanks! im in qatar right now and i feel like puking. nahawa ata ako sa motion sickness ni chris! |
 | mababait nga players nyo e! coach nyo siga! hehe pero cute! |
 | charlestiu wrote on Oct 4, '08, edited on Oct 4, '08 crazy! ahha amazing lasallites saying good stuff to me! thats a first! haha |
 | Coach Theres a difference blue is better and smarter than green!!!! :))))))) |
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 | thank you charles. you should get an award for this :D i'm linking all my friends to this blog entry.
+ AMDG + |
 | nso36 wrote on Oct 4, '08 This should have people open their eyes wider. 8D Excellent blog. I totally agree to all the things you said. |
 | Having a rivalry shouldn't be a reason to be violent. It should be the reason to make both teams more competitive. People from both sides make their own mistakes. What's important is that we say sorry and move on.
"Basketball is a brotherhood," as Adidas puts it.
Live Jesus in our Hearts forever, for the Greater Glory of God. |
 | Nice blog. Congrats to Ateneo. :)
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 | this is a nice entry:) it's about time someone stood up to balance it.:) i'll link this to my friends as well:) |
 | ayan ka nanaman e! kaya walang nangyayari sayo! haha |
 | sure pass it on! thanks :) |
 | lirys wrote on Oct 5, '08, edited on Oct 5, '08 wow :D i have to agree with every single word you wrote here :D
nice blog, charles :D
animo la salle :) :) :)
go ateneo one big fight :D |
 | Next time, he should think before he acts. Haha |
 | i super agree with your post charles, but now you wonder if it really case closed...sometimes people over do it...which is sad.... |
 | wow galing idol ! hehee pwedeng ipanglaban sa debate hahaa tc :) |
 | ganda.... dapat hindi bias... pero wala tau magagawa.. ganun na talaga rivals e.. |
 | sidxx wrote on Oct 5, '08 Wow, you just articulated everything I was suppose to write in a blog entry. I’m impressed with this post and your analysis on the situation whoo! GALING! fellow Atenean (and Xaverian) kasi nagsulat eh haha. peace :P |
 | lyra1214 wrote on Oct 5, '08, edited on Oct 5, '08 this is a really nice entry - it's not everyday that you see an impartial take on the blue-green rivalry. i'll keep the facts that you pointed out in mind when i go to college next year, whether be it in ateneo or la salle. =)
good luck there in austria, and take care! :)
oh, and i wanted to say thank you too for for taking a picture with me last thursday (game 2) at gesu. thanks for being up to it haha :D i really appreciate it. |
 | Hi there, I am also writing from the green side. I just want to say that it's nice to see a blog entry like this-- everything else that I've read these past weeks have been chaotic. That was very well said indeed. Good job. I hope a lot of people get to read this.
Until next season! |
 | It was a well written piece that shows you are a very objective and well grounded person. I would love to read more of your blogs. Have a nice time in Austria. Be well!
Liza |
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 | I wasn't at the bonfire, been out of the country the past week, so I just learned about what happened. It's really sad when people educated in respectable Catholic institutions behave so abominably. We should all remember that the spirit of this rivalry between Blue and Green should be channeled to better ourselves, not reduce ourselves to a bunch of barbarians who don't know how to handle defeat and victory graciously.
On a brighter note: have fun in Austria and do make the most out of your shortened JTA. :) |
 | amdgo wrote on Oct 5, '08 Lols. :) Funny how Lasallians loved Charles Tiu now. See that Charles? Lasallians aren't as bad as you thought about us before. Joke. :P Keep on posting unbiased blogs and you'll continue to have the respect of Lasallians. |
 | Nice i like it. Yeah its true that this rivalry did some damage to both sides and that we really need to tone down. Your entry reminds me of my relationship with my bro, he is an alumni of DLSU and I'm a 4th year AHS student. We tease each other every time there is a ADMU-DLSU game but we congratulate the winner at the end of the game.
We can't prevent these die-hard alumni/students who go below the belt, but you are surely not one of them. Sabi nga nila, meron lang dalawang klaseng atenista: ung nag-aaral sa ateneo at ang tunay na atenista. Well, sana di natin mkalimutan na pinoy tau lahat.
Good luck to all teams next UAAP season, I hope it will be less chaotic. |
 | i just stumbled onto your blog through a link on my friend's multiply site, and i must say that i agree with you totally. coming from a mixed education family (dad + 2 brothers + 1 sister from la salle, myself and my mom from ateneo), watching basketball games together is one loud and chaotic experience. we constantly harass each other during the game, but the teasing ends after the buzzer rings. I have nothing but respect for both schools, which is why it is disheartening for me to see graduates of such great institutions acting in such a manner.
this behavior doesn't end with la salle - admu games though... i've been to a ust - admu game last 2007 where some admu alumni were acting like idiots. sigh. it behooves these people to comport themselves in a manner that should do their alma mater credit, not detract from their school's name. |
 | A mutual friend sent me the link to your site. Very insightful. I'm an avid fan of the Blue Eagles, and even of the AdMU-DLSU rivalry when the opportunity arises (i.e., UAAP games), but it has always been in the spirit of fun. This is a competition that shouldn't get out of hand and go beyond the jests and pokes at each other and trying to outdo the volume of each other's cheers at gametime. But sadly it does, and both sides have been guilty of that over the years. As much as both sides hate how low their respective alumni or students could get on and off the court, it's an unavoidable by-product of the highly spirited blue-green rivalry. As with anything, there are just some people who simply can't let things go. |
 | hehe odi alin ako dun? ung nag-aaral or ung tunaY? haha |
 | haha i never thought bad about you anyway. haha its the other way around! |
 | haha thanks! yeah i just got to my dorm in innsbruck! :) |
 | haha fair enough! must be well educated then! |
 | thankS! there is nothing nice to write about anymore though! haha |
 | we can't do anything to change those people anymore but we should make sure we wont act like them :) |
 | You really think there is no difference between Ateneo and La Salle? After LA Tenorio realized what he had done when he punched that player, he apologized in public. After Baclao shouted at the fallen Maierhofer, he apologized to him, even mentioning on nationwide TV how he regretted his act. After the stick-burning incident at the bonfire, our President, no less, apologized in writing to Bro Luistro.
Has La Salle ever apologized for fielding ineligible players? Has it apologized for Arana dancing and taunting when they had already clearly won, or their current team refusing to leave their dugout to accept their 2nd place awards and congratulate the winners? The following is a recent letter from an Atenean:
"I attended the L Salle graduation of my son, ....., last Saturday at PICC. President Bro. Armin delivered a speech and part of it was about the UAAP championship, referring to Ateneo (indirectly) as "having cheated their way to victory". I heard some people booing immediately after; obviously they are Ateneans. I find it very unprofessional for a president to say this knowing that there are parents in the gallery who graduated in Ateneo or there are parents who have children studying not only in L Salle but also in Ateneo.
"He should have praised the team for their effort and wish them better luck next time instead of sour-graping. Di ba?"
Students from both schools make mistakes - we are, after all, human. It is what you do AFTER committing that mistake that shows what kind of person you are. Charles, if you really don't think there is no difference between Ateneans and La Sallians, then I'm afraid your whole Jesuit education has been lost on you. |
 | ^ ma'am, I believe the whole statement of Bro. Armin was:
“The campus can very well be an island in Thailand’s Satun province where the only way of surviving is by maximizing your meager resources and beating the other tribe, hopefully without having to resort to bribing the tribal council or cheating your way to victory.”
Now this may mean a lot of things. Bro. Armin may have been referring to the stupid political system here in the Philippines wherein the bribing and cheating is all over the media. La Salle has taken it's stand as anti-corruption since the days of Erap in 2001. Siguro nga medyo timely lang na kakatapos ng UAAP Season tapos ganyan sinabi ni Bro. Armin kaya naisip agad na UAAP related. Just like how La Sallian suport site archerpride.com was hacked right after game 2 of the Ateneo-La Salle finals. Fingers were instantly pointed to the blue community as the perpetrators.
My point is we really don't know the real reason behind these things so we are in no position to make conclusions. We don't know Bro. Armin really meant with what he said. In the same way that it would be unfair if La Sallians automatically blame the Ateneans for hacking archerpride.com, because no one really knew what happened.
But if you think that Bro. Armin was sour graping (and if indeed he was), it still does not mean that everyone thinks the same way. Everyone here has already established that it has always been unfair to generalize. Bro. Armin can speak on behalf of the whole La Sallian community, but he cannot think on behalf of everyone else.
Everyone here is at peace already. I mean, even La Sallians are posting in this multiply site because many of us think that it is a very objective blog entry, and everyone else should think the same way. Sana di na magkaroon ng friction between La Sallians and Ateneans na aabot sa point na magsisiraan na ng todo ang isa't-isa. That's all. Peace. |
 | i totally agree that both schools try to be better than the other.. im speaking on the side of la salle and i admit that we have our own flaws as well but the school never tolerated any of it. Regarding the ineligibility of one player that caused our suspension, it was not tolerated and some officials were punished because of it and the suspension itself is already a penalty on our behalf. The word "sorry" might not have been said by Bro. Armin to the UAAP but surely, he did something about it and i guess that is enough.. With regards to ateneo and la salle as a whole, i still spot a difference and that is how each school strives to get to the top. We have worked hard to be where we are right now, our victories in the past have proved it and even if we lost the championship this season, we still reached the second spot because passion, hard work and determination lies within us and no one can question that. |
 | kudos to charles!!! u love your brother very much.. btw, why r u there in austria? im a great fan nga pla of ur brother.. u r the younger version pla of chris.. hehe! ingatz! |
 | kudos to charles!!! u love your brother very much.. btw, why r u there in austria? im a great fan nga pla of ur brother.. u r the younger version pla of chris.. hehe! ingatz!
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 | Very Well said. Charles, I've read this blog on Chris blogspot. Nice. Article imposed. |
 | Well said!
Bashers are the most immature people in the crowd. I'd find more peace watching a children tournament. At least most of them know that the word "sportsmanship" exists. |
 | This is a really well-written entry. I just picked up this link while looking for the story behind the bonfire. I am for the Blue Eagles, but then....yeah. You have a lot of good points, though. :) This was in Sunday's (Oct. 5, '08) Starweek in the Phlippine Star. Maybe you've seen it. La lng. Sharing. It's an eye-opener, and it makes one think. http://www.philstar.com/archives.php?aid=2008100434&type=2 |
 | hi charles, i miss you. sana sinunog nalang nila yung bonfire |
 | the friendship between many members of the two schools arent as bad as people think. |
 | im here to study for a semester |
 | yeah! there are so many bashers. haha |
 | i should agree but by saying that you spot a difference in how each school strives to get to the top i think you are implying that ateneo does things differently? you are wrong there if you are trying to say that we did not work hard. no one but we know how much effort and hardwork the team put in order to attain their championship. |
 | gee. i was talking more on basketball-related things mind you. and it is this kind of arrogance of some ateneans which has always been very disappointing to me even if i am an atenean my self.
Did Wesley Gonzales ever say sorry to Mac Cardona? How low do we have to stoop down that during games we cheer wrong spelling? what does that have to do with basketball? Wala lang? In fact when la salle does its Animoooooo La salle cheer i hear ateneans shouting BOBO La Salle instead of Animo. Jesuit Education huh? Nobody is perfect. Oh and id rather have Ryan Buenafe dance in the half court circle then burning the names of players of the other team who already have lost! talk about rubbing it in! |
 | hi, we don't know each other personally but i've seen you sa games :) anyway. i really enjoyed reading your post. coming from you, this means a lot. i applaud you for being neutral!
i personally think it's stupid how certain schools literally rival each other in everything, such as the admu-dlsu rivalry. heck, it's been like that since my mom was a student and both schools were still in the ncaa! sure, we all have our laughs from poking fun at others' mistakes..but there's a time when they get over the line. innocent people get hurt at times.. like in the bonfire incident.. damay ang buong ateneo even if it's the act of say, a few (or maybe just one? i really don't know). point is, we're all human, we all make mistakes (hello, al salle =p haha).
being a thomasian, i honestly don't really care much for either teams, but i still believe that bashing each other and hurting each other's morale is pointless. kudos to you for not sinking to their level. ;) |
 | hi charles! wow! you are studying in Austria? that's great. you deserve it. I mean you write well and many people can learn something about this blog. So God bless there and I hope you can write more to inspire other people.
P.S. I placed your blog in my blog so my friends that are going for Ateneo or La Salle will see this. Don't worry I credited you for that. :D |
 | Nice blog. (: Both Ateneo and La Salle fans should read this. Very well said. (: |
 | very well said :D At least there is still that bit of sportsmanship with both team, when they applaud each other after the singing of the Alma Mater! I was part of the DLSU crowd when we cheered for you when you accepted your brothers mythical 5 team award last year. |
 | thank you :) haha and i heard the ateneo judo team was cheering for the dlsu team. i actually think the rivalry isnt that bad in other sports. its just exaggerated cause of the media for basketball! |
 | hey buddy, great blog. you mind if i repost it? i seriously think it can knock some sense to most of my schoolmates. im from the green school btw. my friends told me to read your blog. i have to say, time well spent. |
 | I like the part where you did mention about the educational system of both schools. Well, yeah, both schools have their own expertise so why compare? I guess its time that the two rival schools should check their Morality when it comes to behaving and acting. Remember that we are studying in a Christian school, hence, we should apply our moral values. |
 | sure! thank you i am flattered. |
 | wow.. gling naman po.. gudluck sa study.. is it ur masterals na?.. godspeed and kip safe..=) |
 | ahhm, pwede po bng malaman kung anong course nyo.. tnx=) |
 | this blog was created fairly, sana kapuso and kapamilya channels and their followers get the chance to read this! kung ganito ba naman lahat ng journalist ng Pilipinas diba? |
 | nice one.i liked it..the title got my attention.. im excited to recommend this one to my classmates who kept arguing about the schools.. hahaha..(i dont want to admit it but i'm one of them..hehehe.) now,the flaws are being identified..wooh. and i do believe in you,that there's no difference between those colors.. as well as the schools.. how nice of you to write a blog on this one.. at least,you're not biased when it comes to schools.. ^^ thanks..you inspired me a lot.. ^^ |
 | Bonfire issue has gone out of proportion. Apologies were said already! Get over...Green side! AMDG...Blue Eagle is the King! :) |
 | I come from neither school, but I guess the rivalry of Ateneo and La Salle is just stirred by the media as well as the alumni and students of both universities. I just wish that the next time Blue and Green meet again, it wouldn't be as "messy" as what students of both schools think. It's fun to watch Ateneo and La Salle on court. Let all the battle be on court, not outside. So I hope these schools would kiss and make-up already.
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 | wow nice blog....sna mabasa to ng mga students from both school.. |
 | i agree with your blog entry. i was once from la salle and now i am in ateneo. according to one of our brothers in la salle, la salle and ateneo are not different at all since they are both ruled by old men wearing a long white dress. (brothers and priests) hehe :) haaaay.. since when did this rivalry started? and when will this end? only time can tell. :) |
 | i totally agree.. hinde lahat ng mga lasalista are mayabang.. same goes sa mga atenista.. ^^, btw, great insights.. more power!
one big fight! |
 | i'm from mc.....and i just wanna tell you that i totally agree with your blog!:) "I cheer for my school, not against another school." although i agree, i'm still a very loyal fan of ateneo:) |
 | nice blog entry. I've read this from Chris's blog and I must say that your insights are good. And I agree with your thoughts.. :) |
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 | TWO THUMBS UP FOR THE BLOG. :) -i ain't green, i ain't blue though. haha!:)) |
 | if all brothers are like you..we'll expirience the peace on earth!! haha ;p |
 | I totally agree with your post.Why can't they just shrug it off after the game. But we can't blame them, its really hard to do so. especially if they're really rooting for them respective teams. This also happens in the entertainment business(network wars and artist's fans bickering on each others idols). It's fine for as long as it will not go below the belt and end up hurting someone. I wonder what they get from it, a 15 minute satisfaction?knowing you got through someone's heart or mind. Like what i just said, it is fine for as long as its healthy, not personal and its true and people must learn to let go and leave it behind after the game. Maybe, the players should show that for them too its just a game and they can as well leave it behind. |
 | Being out of the Manila colleges, may I ask what started this rivalry between Ateneo and La Salle? What is the history behind this? When did it all started?
Thanks for posting this nice article sir Charles! :) |
 | good thing im from a navy blue school... hehe... yeah... how come the rivalry? my grandma told me it started waaaaay her time pa... |
 | Wow! This is probably the most sensible blog I've read regarding the issue. Smart man. Kudos to you! |
 | i dont really know. im too young for that. haha i only became an ateneo fan because of my brother anyway. haha |
 | the players do show more often than not that it is just a game. hehe |
 | I'm a La Sallian living overseas and I enjoyed reading your article and I agree with you 100%. This rivalry is at best exhausting. When I was in kindergarten i was given a choice - LSGH or Ateneo. I chose La Salle only because I didn't like the Ateneo eagle mascot. That was it - didn't think anymore of it. There is wisdom behind the actions of children sometimes. My other young kinder classmate chose Ateneo and we're still friends to this day. Got a great education, so did he and we're both doing well. Of course, the rivalry sets in and you get caught up with all the bashing and sadly during my years, the violence. I especially deplore the tearing down of the religious orders. The Brothers and the Jesuits do so much great work all over the world that to say that only one order can be the repository of good and the other to be somewhat inferior is ludicrous. Anyway, you seem to be a sensible young man and I applaud your efftorts to bring sense to what I call a never ending pissing contest... |
 | yes thank you very much. haha funny reason for choosing the school though! i know we just have to avoid getting to caught up in the rivalry. |
 | nicely put... im from la salle and i agree to your every word...
it's kinda funny how some people go to extremes just to support their respective schools... some people just need to chill and remember that there's life outside this blue-green rivalry...
oh... and i think that some lasallian international schools carry the color blue...
anyways... i support both schools... much love to both... |
 | ooohh.. btw... can i post a link to this entry so that my friends from the green side can read this?? will wait for ur permission... thanks thanks... |
 | i think its quite late for me to comment on your blog, plus we're not actually contacts.. but still i would like to comment.. MAN, ITS A JOB WELL DONE! :D i read it and i must say that its fairly objective.. your cited achievements of both schools and make every lasallian and atenean feel the presence of the other without that grudge feeling.. i must admit, i'm one of those ateneo-haters, but after reading this blog, seriously, everything changed.. nice nice nice.. may i ask? are you actually related to chris tiu? hehehe.. |
 | ayy btw, i printed it out ah.. i want to make my friends read it. i included your name and the link.. tnx for that great blog.. |
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 | All students from both schools are human beings that have strong values and now deteriorating their purpose. The teachings of two universities have high standards so what's with foul behavior... it seems that the true education lies with the character that they should possess and not those immature acts. I knew that lasallians would support the green archers, showing much effort, creating and shouting new cheers loudly no matter what happens and have nothing against other universities.^.* This blog could really empower the minds of students/alumni to change the way they act during the games between the two schools when the UAAP season 72nd starts...^.* |
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